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wizard oh wizard, what do I do?  This isn't working and that seems foggy and the other won't focus.  Where am I and why am I lost?
 
Where's my love object and where's my path and where's my future and where's my purpose?
 
How do I charge this and how can I reach that?  Tell me how to make this work and how to change that into something else.  Help me find this and assist me in losing that.
 
Where are the short-cuts and show me the cheat-sheet, sell me the answers, and can you take this test for me?  What tricks do you have for the avoidance of ruthless self-examination and complete honest assessment?
 
Why can't I see/concentrate/focus/stabilize/ascend/ and evolve/love/progress/connect/vibrate/empathize/and relate/foresee/use my mysterious abilities?
 
How can I channel all this dancing in my head into something physically concrete?
 
Listen to yourselves!
 
What am I hearing here?  Lost voices craving direction, guidance, purpose, validation, justification, and basic instructions. 
And from what or whom? 
And this is valid? 
Why? 
What kind of history stands behind this advice?  What kind of guarantee comes with it, and how would you collect? 
Is this playing trial and error with 'what is the Truth'? 
Or is this grasping at mystical sources simply because they sound mystical?  For all the enlightenment you profess, this sounds like floundering to me.
 
Remember these various posted mewings (culled from several 'I'll give you a reading' threads) on this thread the next time you're tempted to interject your denigrating comments on threads of a contrasting spiritual cosmology.
 
You criticize for following a book, and yet any stranger that wanders in your midst with the right buzz words, is taken as truth.
 
Yes, this does sound like a tit for tat brouhaha like the christian bashing threads. 
For a reason. 
 
You don't realize what you sound like; you're feeding the problem, like fanatics of any religion do.  Don't you realize the questions you raise on your own threads, are the very ones you reject the answers to out of hand on christian threads?  That virtually guarantees frustration, and perpetuates the 'you blind and foolish' responses?
 
It's actually caring for other human beings that has most of us motivated to share what we perceive; and that makes rejection that much harder, and too easily turns zeal into bitterness.  Immaturity causes much damage on its long journey to wisdom.  Regrettable, but expected in a cosmology where confusion and adversity play an active role in the subjugation into delusion; and no one is completely immune.
 
We've all labored under the crush of questions that seem to have no answer.
The relief when explanations come, feels complete when shared, and humanly impossible to suppress. 
 
I understand this, but you hold a double-standard. 
Gushing about lightworking and its attendant component 'raising your vibrations' is acceptable.  But faith in a particular God and its attendant component of 'Fear of God' is unacceptable.  Just like your concept of vibrations has implications and explanations not readily apparent to christians; the concept of Fear of God being a desirable state is not comprehended by you (a 'fear' that is embraced and understood and transformed into adoration). 
 
You don't like christianity, then move along. 
From your 'spiritual' workings threads, I don't see that you've given any more valid solution to the human condition than I have. 
 
I could come out swinging against Blavatskism like you do against the Bible, but sources should be left for the ones using them, not for the detractors.  Probing on the origins of the foundations of belief should best be done by the holders of that belief.  I could twist the historical records of whatever faith you hold, just as well as you could against mine.  Bottom line is what are the results in your personal life of the incorporation of those beliefs.  Let's discuss that, and the whys and hows of it.
Use a thread to edify, to explain your vision, to expand understanding.
 
If someone is foolish enough to post 'you are all excluded from my heaven'; I expect you to jump them.  In your cosmology, it's obscene.  And without an attending explanation, is irresponsible.
Well, in my cosmology, saying 'I can raise my spiritual level within myself' is just as obscene.  Expect to be jumped on.
Just as you can see through the christian hypocrites and call them on it to prevent predation on the gullible; expect that christians will respond to the swamis we detect that are out to delude.
This is fair and to be expected.
 
Contrary to what you may think, I don't set out to convert you.  If you are 'converted' into seeing similarly as I do -- I rather think it's because Reality speaks for itself, and I just helped strip away illusion. 
(Everyone who feels they have a firm grasp of Truth is going to sound egocentric, because the first measurement of Truth is found in your heart.)
 
My compulsion is to present alternatives to the world system's way of thinking.  Whether you accept them or not is up to you, and I have no stake in the matter.  I'm neither increased nor diminished.  In my cosmology, only God does the thing that leads someone to convert -- so it's all very personal, one on one, the individual and the Creator.  I'm the bystander, handing out the wrassling program, so you know who are the characters, and the schedule of events.
 
I'm not out to chase you with fear, or threaten with hell, or any other crude thing you've been subjected to.  That belongs to a certain class of believer, and my advice is if it doesn't do anything but raise resentment; drop it and ignore it.  God wants who He wants, I let Him deal with others however He wants.  I don't want fear, I want clear thinking.  I don't want hate, I want nothing unexamined.
 
Our gift as humans is communication; so I must relate what and how I believe; if I had a cosmology that had no competing forces in the world, I probably wouldn't have anything compelling to say, there would be no contrast to discuss.  But since there is a dichotomy in my world view, and it consists of choosing what side you are a slave to; I have no alternative but to delineate the choices.  To remain silent puts me in the category of those that perpetuate misery on earth.
 
So I say what I say not to attack or disparage out of hate, but to make things Right; illustrating differences not for the sake of argument, or superiority, or dominance, or control, or power, or wealth, or all the other things I've heard ascribed to the motives of christians.  But simply that you have a complete selection when exercising free will.
 
My experience has been that those who seek God, find Him.  Why tackle someone at mid-field, and interrupt the process?
 
(please note, I did not beat you about the head with Biblical quotes, although I'm capable of doing so -- but in answer to those that say christians never say what they believe without continually referencing endless quotes, their priests/controllers/pastors put words in their mouths, they never think for themselves, they never just speak from the heart.  Those that know my posts, know that I always endeavor to speak my understandings from what it means to me, as clearly as I can, and as fairly as I can.  I don't speak for all christians; I don't speak for Christianity; I only speak from my point of view as one who voluntarily accepts being a slave of Christ.  I hope this post leads to understanding of why we have these bible-bashing, witch-burning, brouhahas.)

Thanks for comments.

No, the point wasn't to pick on or single out wiz or oracle or AO or any other individual. It was to say, 'look at how absolutely human you all are, in your desires to Know; and how you drop all your pretenses when you even suspect something might have the Answers; and you're displaying a lostness and an incompleteness that isn't discussed on the majority of your posts.'

And yes, the more ways you explore, say both what you have in common, and what you are not.

Knowledge is the exploration of different ways. Wisdom is the understanding of those ways. Eloquence is the explaining of those ways. And life is choosing which of those ways you live.

wondering--

I ended up going three directions at once, I wanted to cover related mind sets while I had them all in mind, and get them posted.

No slam to those giving advice; my point was for those obtaining that advice -- the searching for answers didn't seem to take into account the validity of the source, other than if it already agreed with what you thought to begin with. And yet most of the same questioners dismiss the validity of a book that's been around for quite awhile.

And the questioners sounded so secure and self-sufficient with all the answers on christian threads -- but on some 'lite-worker' thread, they reveal how lost and depressed and frustrated, etc., they really were.

Don't say, "take your christian controlling crap outta here, we don't need it!", and then turn around and whine that you just don't get why your life isn't together.

So I guess my post was a reaction to those who may respond out of a knee-jerk reaction to whatever a christian may say; and by doing so, not stop and think that there may be valid answers to the questions that they ask.

Like someone had posted, 'they throw the baby out with the bath water'.

And Freedom Man -- I don't aim my posts to any particular type person. Like I never talked baby talk to my child, I always talked adult to adult; I post as I think and talk. If you need clarification, ask. I talk neither down to someone, nor inflate to sound lofty. I say as I say, and that's the tool I am to reach whomever I'm supposed to reach. The ones I don't cover, are taught by someone else. I'm not about to try and do it all.

Which includes knowing all of a subject before posting. If I waited until I had complete understanding of a subject to discuss it; I'd never get to posting. And if I thought I had complete understanding, I'd be a fool or a liar to myself. But if one piece of what I say ignites illumination in someone, then even a fragment of the truth has value.

But I hope to get to and post those bits that make up the big picture -- pain, sin, heaven, time, self-control, humility, fear of God, servitude, etc. As I'm inspired or moved to.

***Behind your curtains seems to rage a subtle battle of good and evil which is not resolvable and always will be on earth, but, you wage it in your own style still.***

EXACTLY -- that battle rages in all of us; I don't wish anyone to surrender and quit resisting evil, or abdicate making choices and just vegetate, or think that the battle's over and they've already won, and now they can coast and rest on their laurels.

The battle is continuous and carries forward to the last breath.

Don't think I'm refined and complete, or that I've yet won the race, or know all the answers, or safe from error.

I know I'm human with human frailties and flaws. But I know enough to not stop sharing what I know to help both myself and others to grow.

What I know, I say so. If I'm shown to be wrong, I retract. If I'm guessing, I say so clearly. But what I do know has been gleaned through observation, direct experience, diligent study, the inspired Word of God, and having the Mind of Christ.

Indifference and apathy towards the human condition would not have me posting these things, sometimes until dawn, sacrificing both recreation and sleep time. Why should I care? Honestly, I don't know. It seems to have been grafted into me, and now all I know is that I get an inner satisfaction by revealing all that I have discovered, with the hope that it sparks the same drive to discover the Truth in anyone who reads. If it makes one good question that God would have someone think, happen; then I feel that I am helping, accomplishing what I was born to do. With no idea whether I am successful or not, I take by faith that I'm making a difference just by making people THINK.

If I'm crude or don't fit your style; don't worry, perhaps it's that roughness that someone needed to hear, that gets their attention. I can be all things to all people; just not all at once.