***Only a fool ignors the hearts of others and the past and current hearts of these people has not changed. ***
Interesting that your powers include reading great masses of people's hearts...your 'detecto-meter' hasn't measured a
whit of humanness in 'these people' in your long and enlightened life....just bulldoze them out of your prayers, consideration,
compassion, forgiveness, and feelings altogether...how handy to categorize entire segments of the world...afterall, they are
easier to handle when they're not actually human...are the Asians dumped into some hopper of hell in your mind too?....
I'm getting the picture...only smart white clever insider people like you deserve to be awarded rods of iron to 'rule'
with -- I see you're getting in practice now.....
Of all the times to insert the 'judge not' quote....this is certainly where it's meant to be applied...we are called to
use discernment, to rightly divide the truth, and to be able to tell right from wrong -- all those judgments are appropriate...but
only God knows who will be with Him and who won't -- and it's those judgments that He says endangers our own standing with
Him...I leave lump-sum determinations of entire peoples up to Him -- our duty is clear, and is to be focused on those around
us.
***These very same will not only not repent***
A very blanket statement covering millions, said with iron-clad conviction -- so dismissive of the power of God to bring
anyone to the realization for the need of repentance...What happened to the notion that He wouldn't want anyone to be lost?
The only creatures I know that stand outside of repentance are the angelic...because they knew exactly what they did, and
knew precisely what they were rejecting.
God has mentioned about peoples that didn't repent...and He dealt with them. There will be some now and in the future
that won't repent...and He will deal with them too.
But I'd be on shaky ground to insist with absolute certainty that any given individual, no matter how evil they seemed,
couldn't have repented at the last instant of their life...(whether a last second change of heart would do any good -- is
not something I'd want to put to the test personally) but I can't assume that it wouldn't be effective...
***Only God can judge who is evil in this world. To say one race of humans is evil is foolish. Simple logic, really.
Simple logic, or simple minded logic. I suspect the later. Careful who you call evil and foolish honey because currently
your finger is pointing at our God.***
Let me spell it out for you...she said that you claimed one race of humans is evil....interesting twist that you make
it into being careful about who she calls evil....
There is no 'simple mindedness' to the logic that God judges who is evil....you act as if He delegated the job to you....If
God declares a people evil -- that's His business, and He will do with them as He wishes.
And unless He has delegated you the scourge of God, and changed the entire parameters of the Gospel -- I find and judge
you in danger of presumption....(and yes, this is a case where you are duty-bound to exercise judgment. This is calling 'em
like you see 'em....NOT in determining the outcome and destiny of a soul.)
What's your point? That you're some comicbook Gauntlet-of-God out to smite all the ancient enemies of God? I try not to
be snide, but the tone of your posts just leaks over into my responses...you pick the ground to stand on, and it's high-handed,
condescending, and elitist...I call 'em like I see 'em -- and don't look to me to be back-pedaling and apologizing later.
***Can I take this to mean that you will hand your own children over knowingly to a known murderer? Is that what "loving"
others entails to someone such as yourself?***
And standing in Love, is not synonymous with tolerance of evil...hating evil is what we are called to do -- not by hating
the instruments of evil, other humans (because before repentance we were in the very same identical spot -- instruments of
evil). But by overcoming with Love -- it touches the human -- the evil will remain in the world until the end of the Age.
And don't be simplistic yourself...nobody is going to hand over their children...don't you even listen to your own conscience?
Don't you have discernment to know when to resist and how?
***Evil hates "righteousness" and fights such daily. Your love for evil is hardly a deterrent to them. You dear
duped foolish virgin are their "useful idiot" and one ignorantly employed in their camp. Come out of Babylon before
it is too late.***
And I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to claim any righteousness....my 'right-standing' with God, is due to Him giving
it to me...and I feel that it's an effect, accomplished when I see Him face to face, that ripples backwards in time, and is
impugned to me...Not that I operate now in righteousness, because I know I still sin....But to call 'love for evil' the love
for all potential children of the kingdom, puts you in the camp where you don't exactly smell of 'right-standing' either,
despite your claim that being in the right 'club' gives you this lofty position.
Some parts of my claims may be true, and some parts of yours may be too...I'll do life the way I'm led, and I suspect
you'll do the same...
But as far as furthering understanding goes...it'd be real nice if you'd get out of the rut you seem to be in...several
forums are already carrying these identical slams to the 'jews'...either they are copying you, or you are copying them....in
any case, change the channel for awhile, ok?
and if thereīs one thing that christians learn as a fundamental -- it that they have NO righteousness. Christīs righteousness
is applied to christians, but as a covering, not as a point of view.
And righteousness is being right. Being correct. Being in the will of God.
We exercise discernment and judge what belongs of God and what leads away from Him.
If we all point at the sky and each claims itīs a different color...we ALL canīt be right...(Iīm not going to split scientific
hairs and get into physics and spectrum analysis -- this is an analogy, not literal)
We are called to be awake...be aware...test and judge the spirit of a thing...
(NO, not judging in way itīs assumed "...you go to hell...you go to hell right now...")
Judging something as to what its outcome will be, is the prohibited judging. Thatīs knowing the future, and that is Godīs
prerogative. But judging in the sense of evaluating is required.
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