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channeling

***Re: Nancy is re-posting many GLP threads to prove Planet X. Moral: The End is Near!***

Well, I confess I never paid much attention to the planet X business; let alone the ´shift´ and ´vibrations´ and all.
The reason I never bothered to even investigate if there were any ´facts´ was hearing Nancy go into her ´channeling´ of this information.

Like someone previously posted; those that channel seem to start with knowledge that should be unknown; that gets your attention and credibility. Then bit by bit error mixes in until the information is so far out, that the recipient of the ´messages´ is left wondering just what the hell happened.

This has been replayed over and over.
Just like Jacques Vallee says about the UFO psy-ops; we´re being set up to have a certain mindset -- holding two diametrically opposed beliefs, so that we make no definitive - this is false/this is true - demarcation in our mind.
Just a little bit of proof. And a little bit of doubt. We hold back from making judgment until we get just a little more info. And the little more info just feeds the belief/doubt cycle a little further.
No actual delineation - this is bullshit/this is Truth - actually occurs.

A limbo of half-actuality hazes our thinking - and the point is to have that haze seep into all avenues of our thinking.

This is only one reason why giving into channeling is dangerous; but reason enough to say ´no matter how valid it sounds, this is one aspect of knowledge that because of its history of contamination, should never be given credence´. Don´t even start listening to it. Research all you want, but this area should be dropped, because no good has ever come from it ultimately.



either possessed or infested. Absolutely...the alternative is that she´s making it up, running a con.
Listening to her when she´s speaking for them, I´m under the impression that she is demon influenced. Anything deeper than that, I wouldn´t be able to tell just from hearing her once, and definitely without a face to face contact.

So here is my world-view...God is truth, no errors, no lies, no misspoken pronouncements.
If He says something will happen, it will.

If someone claims to be channeling (something speaking through them) and what they say contains errors, or doesn´t come to pass as they say, then they are not channeling a message from God...even third or fourth hand message passed down.

So in my world-view, the only niche left that could channel through a person would be demonic by default.

nolomolistari
10/11/2003
2:10 am EDT
Re: Is Nancy Demon-Possessed?

well Linda, prayer and fasting are like one unit; but there still is one other thing that goes with prayer, and that is worship.

So even if you do the serious talking to God, you still have the more important relationship to God, and that´s of worship.

This puts things in proportion. You pray, or petition to a Being; but simply asking someone for things is not a complete relationship. And the full relationship is that of created being relating to the Creator. The gulf between the two is so immense...although bridged by Jesus...the created object can only stand in awe of that which made them. And the gratitude for the gift of life, and then the extending of a close relationship by Him to you, and the realization of what it means for a Supreme Being to want to have a father-child loving relationship evokes a worship response.


***Re: Is Nancy Demon-Possessed?***

Yeah, there´s been times when the prophet got mad that the big swat didn´t happen.
But look closer...this was not a flat statement ´it will happen´, it was conditional...if you don´t do such-and-such, then something will happen.
Conditional statements are like if/then propositions...in contrast to declarative statements of deterministic fact.

But there is always room for free will, an interactive relationship. If not, then it´s static, and with no involvement to interpose, or argue, or plead, then it will occur. But in give-and-take, the situation rises above linear progression, and if the creature will modify its position, then the Creator might modify too. This interpersonal dealing is actually what the Creator is trying to get at anyway, and being more important than the original ´this is what´s going to happen´, writes a new future history. All the times that it happens though, always contains the unstated but understood caveat that if original conditions are met, then the original outcome is reinstated. The interposition of something going to happen, is always a result of a prior behavior or action. If something (like repentance) undoes the trigger of the response (to rebellion), then everything is ´reset´ so to speak.